How HB2 and TGU BENEFITTED UNC Basketball

UNC Basketball
BobLee
March31/ 2017

How HB2 and “The Greatest Scandal EVER” BENEFITTED UNC Basketball’s Current Success. 

Despite his bellyachin’ and incessant whining would HoFer Roy Williams and UNCCH be in back-to-back Final Fours WITHOUT HB2 a/k/a “The Bathroom Bill”; and/or without TGU / “The Great Unpleasantness” – a/k/a The Greatest College Athletic / Academic Flim Flam in Recorded History? I say NO they likely would not be.

Feel free to exercise your right to a dissenting opinion; but don’t expect to change mine.

Of the two notorious signature elements – HB2 and TGU – certainly TGU has had a far greater impact on UNC Athletics especially UNC Mens’ Basketball. There are “youngsters” in the 3rd grade today who have never known a world without the embarrassing cloud of scandal seemingly permanently settled o’er fabled Franklin Street and its once pristine image of institutional purity. SPLATT!

It would not be incorrect to say that HB2 has had ZIP ZERO NADA effect on college basketball within the State of North Carolina despite both Mike Krzyzewski and Roy Williams being used as gullible pawns by the gender terrorists and rabid activists within their respective institutions to speak out against “keeping rest rooms and locker rooms gender specific”. If either high-profile coach was truly sincere in his public comments he could graphically demonstrate that sincerity by having his wife, daughter(s) and granddaughters “shower with the team”. If Mike or Roy have no problem with gender neutral toilet and dressing facilities on a personal level, they can castigate the rest of the state’s citizenry for their overtly puritan morality. …. That’s never going to happen so so much for their “celebrity politicking” from their bully pulpits.

NOTE:  There is absolutely nothing in any version of HB2 (original or revised) that prohibits any athletic events in NC.  Those decisions were made arbitrarily by The ACC and NCAA and NBA.  NOT by the NC General Assembly.  Not that “facts” should ever get in the way of an economic extortion plot.

Mike Krzyzewski has had no problem whatsoever recruiting 5-star players to Duke since HB2 became “an issue” two years ago. Since Roy recruits the same players as Duke (and Kentucky and Kansas) one must assume Roy’s inability to sign top-ranked “one & dones” in recent years is due to another factor ….. ergo “The Greatest Scandal etc etc etc ……”.

It is reasonable to assume that Roy’s inability to guarantee UNC will not eventually be penalized for “the greatest academic/athletic flim flam in NCAA history” at some point HAS affected top-rated recruits’ decisions.

They only intend to attend classes for one semester wherever they go before leaving for the NBA. If UNCCH is banned from The NCAA Tournament for that season they miss an opportunity on the national stage to enhance their lottery value. So why choose UNCCH when Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and assorted other schools with traditionally strong MBB programs don’t bear that burden.

In addition to Jason Tatum, highly-rated freshman Harry Giles is also leaving Duke despite being limited by injuries to sporadic playing time. Giles might join UNCCH’s Marvin Williams as a one&done who never started a college game. Only Kentucky has had more “one&dones” the past 5-6 years than has Duke.

Back in the 70-80s, every “top recruit” would be recruited by UNC, UCLA, Indiana and Kentucky. Each would get their share each year. Duke joined that pantheon in the late 80s as UCLA and Indiana have waned. Lately Roy keeps getting left at the altar by the Top Twenty…. but, by golly, here is Roy back in The Final Four. How can he do dat?

No big secret. For all his well-known Tourette’s Syndrome “foot-in-mouth” disease; Roy has adapted to recruiting “very good players” – but not Top Twenty – who develop within his program to exceptional team players as upperclassmen. And, in the process, become familiar to UNC fans with some sort of mutual “old school” bond twixt athlete and fan base.

NOTE:  AND… from all outward appearances, the recent UNC BB rosters have been noticeably devoid of THUGS and thuggish behavior!   I would hope most UNC fans appreciate that fact.

Change two plays at the end of last Sunday’s game and Calipari’s current one&dones defeat Roy’s upperclassmen. Would that validate one strategy over the other? Both Kansas and Duke – with their one&done heavy rosters – had already been defeated by Oregon and USC’s upperclassmen.Brandan Wright

Do you know the last “one&done” at UNCCH? Brandan Wright in 2007. TEN YEARS AGO! I’m not even sure I spelled his name correctly. Who cares?

Yes, there is a sicko faction of UNC Board Monkeys who (1) despise John Calipari; yet (2) want Roy to run the same sort of one&done Kentucky program at UNCCH. I have “issues” with the average UNCCH fan for assorted reasons; but I have to believe the vast majority prefer Roy’s current TGU-mandated strategy of recruiting highly-talented “projects” who intend to be around long enough that fans learn to spell their names and remember them 6-8-10-15 years later.

How many “old school” UNC fans can still name the starters from 1957 and 1982? A LOT of’em. OK, many still misspell Hansbrough / Hansborough but they cheer him when he returns to The Dean Dome. Who are “the legends” at Duke? Laettner, Hill, Hurley, Bilas, Redick …. Not the ever-growing quickly forgotten number of one&dones.

I do not take back any of the criticisms I have written about Roy and his “stoopid blurts”. But I do applaud how he has adapted his team-building system to fit the circumstances of the times.  Whether it was intended or otherwise, he deserves the credit.

Incidentally I was accused off-line this week of “hating Roy” and “having a grudge” against him ??? I always appreciate when a column draws a “passionate response”. Yeeee HA!  FWIW… it came from “an Old Weller of lengthy tooth”.

Oops! I’m out of time. I wanted to discuss the death threats that Kentucky fans made this week to the referee of Sunday’s game. I do not believe it is always some mouth-breathing gap-toothed evolutionary throwback that does this crap. I’ll discuss that later.

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Just a thought to ponder, what would the NBA and college landscape look like if the NBA still allowed direct to the pros entry for HS seniors?
I’m guessing there would still be a contingent of one/done, and coaches who focus on that player as a development ground for NBA player, but it would at least take the top 5-10 kids out of the college student-athlete charade.

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If I had my way (and I’m only trying to help) there would be NO freshman eligibility for varsity sports. Incoming freshmen, as a condition of their free athletic scholarship, would be barred from playing a professional sport, regardless of their academic status, UNTIL their class graduates. The NBA, NFL etc. would be required to honor this provision otherwise be banned from access (as well as other sanctions that may be appropriate). If a player went around this rule and played in, let’s say Italy, said player would contractually obligated to reimburse ALL monies and associated costs of his/her scholarship.… Read more »

Doug
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We can’t even ban undocumented aliens from entering our borders. How can we ban or deny access to people from seeking jobs including pro sports jobs? :=>

Robert Kennel
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Robert Kennel

BL, have been missing you. Hope the eyeball and Cardinal’s rebirth go well with you. Spent last night and most of today with former Pack football players. Was amazed at how many read you and asked that I keep “jousting” with you. Had seen NCSU68’s comments herein and figured it would take several tribal councils for the code breaking. Discussions with Doeren and Yow who are feeling good about football. Met new Coach KK who appears quite real. Results will have to come, but he strongly appears a keeper. Tuesday we’re doing a dramatic reading of MLKJr’s “Beyond Vietnam” speech… Read more »

Floyd.R.Turbo
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Floyd.R.Turbo

SUPPOSE just for grins, that TGU was finally resolved and there are no penalties for UNC BB… will Roy give up building with upperclassmen and go for all the one&dones he can get?

Doug
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Doug

Roy is building with upperclassmen because the one-and-done’s are going elsewhere. So he really has no other choice at the moment. Every bb coach in America would sign those players too.

Mayberry Jim
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Mayberry Jim

So BL, what happens if the NCAA still doesn’t schedule tournaments in NC? Whose fault will it be then?

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NCSU68Grad

Despite this being April 1, I really WONDER if Johnnie Boy Swoff had already got an “Under the Counter” approval from the NCAA? If he did NOT, then it IS time for his untimely (or maybe long overdue) RETIREMENT. It would be idiotic (and when has that stopped folks) to have allowed any changes in HB2/HB142 that PC Emmett of Indiana fame would NOT approve. NOTE, for the record, Indiana has a Religious Freedom regulation that most states would covet….but most of the ACLU and Atheist Groups would quickly shot down. Would be interesting to see Rev BB take off… Read more »

Doug
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“If either high-profile coach was truly sincere in his public comments he could graphically demonstrate that sincerity by having his wife, daughter(s) and granddaughters “shower with the team.” Think about it. Do you know of a single reporter who would ever put your proposition in question form to either K or R. I have yet to hear of a single media member express a contrary view point from that of the LGBT playbook. Even in this current environment I still find the media one sidedness and silence odd. Proponents of HB2 have been sold out by their so-called allies by… Read more »

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“the recent UNC BB rosters have been noticeably devoid of THUGS and thuggish behavior!” I do appreciate that fact. Can’t say the same about the Fedorians.

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The thought of Mayor Roberts in the Ladies shower will haunt me, and every woman in your audience. Mayor Pat is going to be scratching his head forever wondering how he got voted out of the gov mansion in 2016. As a Charlotte area resident, can Bob Kennel please ask Rev Barber to have the CIAA boycott Charlotte? I would hate to see the over-exaggerated estimates on economic benefit that circus brings every year. . Only you could draw that accurate conclusion. Without TGU, there is no Luke Maye on the floor, maybe not on the team at all. Absolutely… Read more »

Steve Stacy
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All I am sure about TGU is that UNC has proven that the 4 corners is alive and well. And they still play it flawlessly.

Jack.P
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Jack.P

Didn’t Roy refuse to recruit John Wall because he knew he was a one&done?

Joanne.H,in.Greenville
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Joanne.H,in.Greenville

If I had a nickel …. for every time over the past ten+ years I’ve said “Only BobLee would come up with THAT …..” Your HB2 Shower Proposal is Pure Gold and could be expanded to include Roy Cooper’s wife and every other prominent liberal publicly supporting HB2 …. including ACC Commissioner “Little Johnny” Swofford.

Earl.H
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Earl.H

Micki Krzyzewski and Wanda Williams showering with a bunch of nekkid basketball players !!! OH ME… OH MY!

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NCSU68Grad

BL, Totally, I think, agree. HB2 was nothing more than a temper tantrum by the “IQ Challenged” Charlotte City Council. All the Hoopla from the NCGA did was make it a front page issue….not page 10. Charlotte urinated in their own punch bowl….assuming that is distasteful to most folks. HB2 marginalized the OTHER, in force “anti-discrimination” regulations in such vestiges of CH, GSO, Durham (Bang-Bang), Asheville (no explanation needed), etc. SO, then all the Code Reds and Pinks and the “Alphabet Gang” (LBGTQX and most decidedly affiliated with Google) united to tar and feather NC. Their own little enclaves of… Read more »