Roy Did It “His (& Dean’s) Way”

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April02/ 2021

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April 2, 2021

Roy Williams … He Did It “His  (& Dean’s) Way”

I’ve never met Roy Williams … never shook his hand or looked him in the eye.  My opinions of Roy The Man and/or Roy The Coach are formed totally from his public persona and his professional resume.

That said I have always seen Roy as an “open book” … not the complicated, reclusive micro-managing “deity” of his hallowed mentor.  Two men forever linked within the World of UNC Basketball and within the minds of those for whom That World is of greatly exaggerated importance.

If you had asked me two weeks ago “Do I think …  Roy has had enough of the current / future state of Big Time College Basketball … Will he ride off into the sunset?”  I might have said “I would not be surprised…” but I hadn’t given it much thought.   I don’t pay much attention to “all that” any more.

I did watch the final few minutes 0f the Wisconsin game.   I also watched snippets of both Duke games.  I still can’t name a single player on this years’ UNC or Duke team.  That apathy doesn’t bother me a bit.

I watched yesterday’s press conference w/ Roy.   And Bubba’s Zoom presser last night with the media re: Who’s Next?   BTW… keeping those two issues separate was Vintage Bubba Genius … and a testament to his leadership acumen.

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I believe What Roy said about Why Now is The Truth.

I reject sinister conspiracies to the contrary.  Sure as God made little green apples there ARE “conspiracies” about it from both Carolina board monkey lunatics … and Hated Rival lunatics … bless all their little pea brains.

I have always said that Dean left when he did … when both Stackhouse and Wallace left after their sophomore years.  Dean’s first “Two & Dones”.  Dean saw the handwriting on the wall that His Era was Over.

Roy’s “I’m staying (at Kansas)” was a major “piss in the punchbowl” for many.   His eventual Prodigal Son Return and resultant Three Rings resolved all that for 99% of “the faithful”.

Roy had his “tall white kid” – Walker “Something” – bail last week.  He was to be a key component in restoring UNC to a Top Ten program.   Maybe THAT was the straw that broke the camel’s back” for Roy?

Roy’s successes over the past 6-8 years have all been with upperclassmen-heavy rosters. … My speculating – I think that kid bailing on him WAS a factor.

Roy’s Way was – of course – an extension of Dean’s Way.  Adapted to “try” and accommodate rapidly changing socio-cultural realities.  The Era of The Roy / Dean Way Is Over.   RIP

For “My Generation” – From 50 to Infinity – the current and projected future of Big Time College Sports is contrary to why college sports became such a passion for so many.  Too much of a passion perhaps.

and it ain’t coming back.  Wishin’ won’t make it so.

Yes, I took issue here with some of Roy’s socio-political comments over the past 10-12 years.   In Roy’s defense … whatever his actual thoughts – if he has any – his ongoing professional success DEMANDED that he say what he said.  Same with Coach K. Same with Mack … and with every Big Time College Football / Basketball Coach.

OK … Two Questions.   (1) Did Roy know all about the AfAm Studies Scam?  IMO… Of course he knew about it.  … (2) Was UNC involved in the pay-the-agents scandal?  IMO … No, neither was Duke.

Roy Williams was “No Saint” in a high-risk unforgiving profession that has No Saints.

Big Time College Sports is a Very Very Corrupt Business.   A level of Corruption and Abject Hypocrisy matched only by “Politics”.  Comparing the two I turn to a BobLeeSays I have used many times …

Every Big Time College FB/BkB Program “Cheats”… Except The One I Pull For …

Every Politician Is a Crook … Except The Ones I Voted for … sigh.

I do not see Roy becoming an ESPN Commentator / Analyst.  IMO … His “Ol’ Roy” persona – which I believe IS HIM – doesn’t transfer well to that format.

Maybe “they” create a Special Vice Chancellor of Yadda Yadda for him at UNC … or some such wokey silliness.  Or maybe he just moves to wherever his “beach retreat” is and completely exits the public arena.

For all his eccentricities and peculiarities …

I believe Roy Williams is a Decent Man … relatively speaking considering the business he was in.   He Deserves All The Plaudits For His Successes in a Very Competitive / Corrupt Profession.

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Who’s Next?

I long ago eliminated “where the loonies dwell” from my daily life.  But I betcha “they” have IT as … HUBERT DAVIS or WES MILLER.  With WES MILLER maybe a 70-30 Favorite.

I wrote Bubba this AM congratulating him on how he orchestrated yesterday’s two events.  I also told him I am kinda hoping he “throws a curve ball” like he did bringing “Mack Back” … because I do Love Chaos among the easily Chaotic.

I’m sure there are bazillion jokes going around that IT will HAVE TO BE a Transgendered Tri-Sexual Gay Albino Midget With Terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome in order to satisfy the Franklin Street Lunatics ‘R Us Faction.

While “that nutjob faction” has come to symbolize All That Is UNC-CH it has Never had any influence in any significant fashion with UNC Athletics.   I don’t expect it to this time.

Really Big Rams WILL have a voice at The Table … not necessarily a deciding voice (as they did with “The Butcher Fiasco”) but pissing them off is not advisable.   UNC’s Really Big Rams have never been of the Franklin Street Lunatic persuasion.  I suspect either HUBERT DAVIS or WES MILLER would be acceptable to them.

Being able to “recruit” easily influenced black teenagers with exceptional basketball skills is a necessity for a successful College BB program circa 2021 and Beyond.

UNC’s next HBBC will have a proven ability to “do that”.    He won’t be wearing a MAGA cap on recruiting visits.

Stephen A Smith has already come out “guns ablazing” in favor of Levelle Moton at NC Central.   I’m pretty sure Stephen A Smith will not be “in the loop” on this one.

Thank Goodness enough Time has passed that neither LARRY BROWN nor GEORGE KARL are on anyone’s list any longer… at least no one’s with at least a double digit IQ.  Same with Pat Riley or Phil Jackson.   Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich HATE TRUMP enough to satisfy the nutjob faction … but I don’t see them getting a phone call.

Might Bubba look beyond “The Family”.  Yes, IMO … he might.

Bubba says it will be His and Chancellor Gus…???’s call and I believe him.  I also believe it will be a done deal within 7-10 days or less.

Is All This As BIG a Deal as it might have been 10-12 years ago?   I don’t think so.

Certainly it IS a Big Deal but – IMO – not as much as it used to be.   Not that I am one to judge such matters.

I have more important issues on my mind.   This is “spawning season” for the local bass community.

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Rob
Rob
2 months ago

I love the Hubert Davis hire, he seems like exactly the type of role model young people (of all races) need today. He’s a devout Christian, a strong family man, well educated and VERY well spoken. He showed his loyalty leaving ESPN to be Roy’s Lieutenant for 9 years. I honestly didn’t even know Davis was an Assistant Coach at Carolina because I pay virtually no attention to modern ACC hoops. But the fact that we don’t hear Davis’ name connected to silly twitter comments or scandalous behavior is a very good thing. . Frankly I’m pleasantly surprised UNC made… Read more »

Fayettewuf
Fayettewuf
2 months ago

When I saw the press release I thought it was an April Fool’s gag. Half expected Roy to appear with his hair dyed Krzyzewski black saying April’s Fool. Actually afterward it made perfect sense. With college basketball headed toward becoming a G-League with collegiate ties, with a hot stove league and a trading period, I doubt that Roy wanted participate. It has lost its appeal for me too. Things change.

Doug
Doug
2 months ago

I might be jumping way ahead of where the collegiate MBB game is going. CNR can reel me back in if I’m too far off-base. So listen up Coach & BobLee. . Point 1. No begrudging at all when young men try bettering themselves and leaving school for NBA salaries or chasing their dreams. Same as in the business world. Good for them. . Point 2, The meat of the matter. Going forward a few years if the exodus of players leaving to enter the NBA or the Transfer Portal, will having a legendary coach Rupp. Smith, K etc be… Read more »

Hesire2
Hesire2
2 months ago

I know Roy personally. I have played golf with him and he once attended my Sunday school class I taught. He is a genuine person. I was happy to hear his decision for his personal health. I have been concerned about him for several years. . As to the current sports industry, I agree with you 100%. I am no longer interested in any. Sports has been destroyed from what it was when I was an athlete. I joked to some that UNC would now abolish basketball so they could have students concentrate on better scholarship. However, that is a… Read more »

ENC1
ENC1
2 months ago

Great read as always and we Duke fans that respect the game and great programs hate to see him go. I also agree College Basketball is not what it once was and question if it will every be. If I could be in charge of college basketball for just one year I would spend most of that year begging the NBA to draft HS grads and expand the G league into a version/model of minor league baseball. Also make sure NCAA basketball does not become AAU basketball because it is headed that way.

70sTarheel
70sTarheel
2 months ago

Re the last sentence of your article: trout season opens today. Stocking in mountain streams has been going on for weeks. The furthest west stocking occurs in the Dan River in Stokes County–about 1.5 hour away from you. I am going to try for the first time the middle part of next week, after the elbow-to-elbow fishing of opening day dies down. I’m pretty much a beginner, so I won’t be the guy in the Cabela’s outfit with the fancy fly rod. I’ll try a spinning reel with light tackle. Wish me luck. Let me know if you decide to… Read more »

Queen City
Queen City
2 months ago

Roy ran a basketball program they way have been run for a generation where players graduate and come back to visit and network post playing days. Players parents supported the kids. Former players would come and visit and bring their kids. . Today’s coaches run teams, not programs, that are no different than the NBA where players come and go and the focus is on contracts and stats. Parents support their kids by texting the coach and questioning their decisions. Former players bring their kids back to visit the 2 or 3 schools they used to play for. . Don’t… Read more »

former96heel
former96heel
2 months ago
Reply to  BobLee

I have no idea about the transfer kid, but if UNC can’t hold on to the tall white guy, what’s next, the 11th man Woodberry star leaves too? Duke won’t have the whiny Yankee who flops every play and makes exaggerated appeals to the ref? I really don’t know 2021 college hoops anymore.

former96heel
former96heel
2 months ago
Reply to  BobLee

Just as I was warming to introducing MLB to my son this summer to follow along the long grind of a season. Oh well, I sure hope has doesn’t bore of my lessons on heirloom tomatoes and proper weed and pest control in the garden.

Beth In Durham
Beth In Durham
2 months ago

I watched the press conference until I heard them say Prince Tassle Loafer was there (rolling eyes emoji). I enjoyed Roy being the coach of the Tar Heels and I will miss him, but I wish him all the best and hope he gets to relax and enjoy his grandchildren, golf and baseball.

NCSU68GRAD
NCSU68GRAD
2 months ago

BL, I would have lost money on your timing. I was in the 9:00 time slot this morning, There are those that think you had this “he’s gone’ column in the HD for years. As a Wolfie, I could make the usual snide remarks about the AFAM Diploma Mill that DES with help from Swoff started. However, I agree with you. ORW was not brought into those discussions. NOW, his former KU Academic Advisor, who “had to leave town” and was “his most important assistant” might have been directed by some to apply the same schemes that KU did. .… Read more »

NCSU68GRAD
NCSU68GRAD
2 months ago
Reply to  BobLee

When ORW came back to UNC, he brought his KU academic advisor, Wayne Walden. Once the stink of the AFAM caper started to engulf CH, Mr. Walden quickly left town….much like a pregnant Church Secretary who was engaged in carnal activities with the Head Pastor…. https://chapelboro.com/sports/unc-sports/arts-angle-wayne-walden THAT is who disappeared. Now, was ORW complicit? Fine line between complicity and plausible deniability. I don’t think he was involved in the actual caper,…because he did want to know and did not ask questions. I also doubt that anyone in the AD or his Staff sat him down and got a deposition. Certainly… Read more »

Ben in MO
Ben in MO
2 months ago

I didn’t see the presser, just saw the announcement. Then I went back to my sandwich.

Chip
Chip
2 months ago

I remember, after Dean retired, he was given the title “coach emeritus”. Guess they’ll give Roy that title too.
Stephen A and his ilk will make a whole lot of noise if the next UNC isn’t AA. They’ll make noise until time for the UNC-Duke game when theirs ESPN bosses tell them to STFU so they can hype the game.

Da judge in Charlotte
Da judge in Charlotte
2 months ago

I believe Roy has a had his fill of what college basketball ball has become- no longer a sport played by students, but rather a training ground for the NBA. The lack of team loyalty by players who put themselves first has to be frustrating to a guy like Roy who began coaching in an era when college players actually graduated from college. Who needs a college degree now if you can shoot three point baskets routinely and make gazillions doing it on a pro team? Dean Smith would be considered a dinosaur in today’s environment. As one who attended… Read more »

Joco Bob
Joco Bob
2 months ago

Who would want to be a coach in today’s college sports mess and corruption, especially basketball. I watched Roy’s press conference as well and he came across as I expected saying the current sorry state of college sports is not worth the aggravation or trouble dealing with spoiled young players and their obnoxious parents when you are rich, age 70, and can go play golf and sit on Wrightsville Beach with your time left on this earth. . I remember Coach K all but utter those same words earlier this year and would not be surprised to see him do… Read more »

Doug
Doug
2 months ago

It’s easy to predict the infatuation with “one of our own” by many fans and fat cats. Had this discussion about who’s next after Roy with many UNC wannabe fat cats several times. I still fall back to the same point. DES was a Kansas product and assistant coach at the US Air Force Academy hired by Frank McGuire of NYC. Both came from a fair piece from UNC and both did pretty well as did Roy. Like you I prefer chaos over who the next coach is or the next season.

former96heel
former96heel
2 months ago

I was waiting on the first Larry Brown suggestion. Too bad it was made in jest. Can’t there at least be a rumor of Pitino flying in to play golf at the Gov Club this weekend? Someone make this entertaining.
Hopefully Roy enjoys this lowkey chapter of life, enjoying the ability to get invited to any club, anywhere, anytime for a round of golf, while he can still enjoy it. If he misses the audience, let him go back on the Rams Club circuit, whenever that comes back.

Babs.Derm
Babs.Derm
2 months ago

Excellent, excellent article! I have said it before, and I’ll say it again, maybe time to look beyond the Carolina family. The game has changed, and there are some really good younger coaches out there. I also agree, in part because the game/recruiting has changed, that this isn’t the big deal it used to be. It would have been a daunting task (albeit a golden opportunity) to accept the position as head basketball coach at UNC. The expectations are beyond what most would understand. Same thing at Duke. Good on all points about those former pro coaches that, thank goodness,… Read more »

Rivlax
Rivlax
2 months ago

I can take or leave Roy. His Daggum Roy persona grated on me, but probably not any more than Coach K’s Chicago-isms grate on UNC fans. But I didn’t like the way he threw his last two teams under the bus at his press conference. That was not even in the zip code of classy.

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