BL: Name NC State’s Signature Loss… & Bubba’s Big Deal

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BobLee
November05/ 2017

Name NC State Signature Loss … & Bubba’s Big Deal

It was touted as THE Biggest Game in NC State / Carter-Finley History since the last “biggest game in NC State / Carter-Finley history” whenever that was. Sports loves to deal in Hyperbole. Everything is an “…est,

In its aftermath, Dabo Versus Dave @ The Carter will likely be Dave Doeren’s “Signature Loss” for awhile.

What I saw from my home theater was two very evenly matched teams trading punches for four quarters with Dabo’s Tigers coming out ahead. It’s second consecutive very narrow nail-biter win over Doeran’s Red-clad Wolfpack.

Considering that Dabo’s Tigers are a legitimate Top Tier Juggernaut program of the past three years, that should be cause for pride among NCSU loyalists. I am sure it is for many.

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Is all that separates Clemson and NC State Football a waterslide… a nap room… and a rock?

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Ask a college football fan in Jefferson City, Missouri or Fort Collins, CO or Carlsbad CA for word association for North Carolina State Wolfpack.  I’m not sure what you get back.

Current cradle of NFL QBs ??… I doubt it.  Maybe something about Jim Valvano but “V” died 25 years ago. That literally is a lifetime for a Millennial.

Rightly or wrongly, I maintain that…

The NC State Wolfpack have a “national reputation” comparable to Texas Tech… Minnesota… Oregon State.   Viewed in a hazy not-too-specific way.

Yes… TWO National Championships in Basketball… but neither was in the past quarter century.

After 25 years, sports achievements are placed in a cardboard box labeled Who The Hell was “Choo Choo”? That box is placed on a high shelf and rarely peeked into.

Neither Monte Towe nor Terry Gannon get invited to Memorabilia shows outside of West Raleigh. …  Along with that national anonymity comes a blessing.

No one other than inhabitants of Planet Wolfpack and it’s adjoining Planet Hated Rivals knows that… Every Wolfpack Loss in FB or MBB in anything remotely labeled “a Big Game” is GUARANTEED to have in common that…

The Refs Stole It From Us.

Whether under orders from Johnny Swofford… or ESPN… or The NCAA… or simply The Sports Gods. It doesn’t matter who The Head Referee is, be it Jim Knight or Ron Cherry (i.e. “the black one”) or Karl Hess (i.e. the crazy SOB)… or whoever yesterday’s Ref was. The Legacy of Refs Kneecapping The Wolfpack probably goes back to Red Peril days.

It doesn’t matter that no one in Jefferson City, Fort Collins, or Carlsbad know that the Refs ALWAYS screw NC State. Wolfpack fans and every hated rival fan knows it.

The Refs Always Screw The Wolfpack Conspiracy is either (1) True – (2) Not True – (3) Might Be True Sometimes.

My theory on Conspiracy Theories… 50% of’em are bogus… but which 50%?

This time the Irateness Level of Irate Wolfpack fans reached spit at and throw trash at the refs as they left the field. Oh My! Then noted repeatedly in post-game remarks by both NCSU players and Head Coach.

There were some marginal calls / no calls. In the closing minutes of close Big Games EVERY call / no call is “marginal”.

The litmus test I use whenever any fan base complains that it was “done wrong” is…

If the circumstances were totally reversed, how would you react?

I use this for UNCers re: TGU. If Duke had been under investigation for The Greatest Eligibility Scam in NCAA History and been let off scot-free how would you (UNCers) feel?

Can we say that UNC was “Bowe Bergdahled””? Or was Bowe Bergdahl “UNCCHed”.

Somewhat related… was Chubb’s repeated de-toweling of the Clemson QB simply clever gamesmanship or poor sportsmanship? I look forward to The Official Bob Kennel Answer to that one.

Every Big Game in which NCState is “screwed by the refs” gets its own Title for ease of identification. There was TA’s KneeGio’s Punt ReturnDudley VS Clyde The Glide… and others I don’t recall.  I have a LIfe.

Speaking of Gio’s Punt Return… did you know that Mr Kennel had Abraham Zapruder film that play. His Zapruder Film clearly shows 26 obvious “blocks in the back” on that one punt return. I’ve seen the film and only counted five but BK’s swears there were 26.

Clemson laptop

Will history record yesterday as LapTop-gate? I hope not because I hate “–gates”. Soooo trite.

I’ve read three stories about the mysterious sideline laptop. After the second one I felt like I was watching a Hillary Clinton “Why I Lost” interview with Rachel Maddow. …. Aaaaiiiieeeeee!

I wanted to scream at my IMac …

Coach Doeren STOP… you are better than this! Complain about ½ time pass-outs or whatever. … STOP with the laptop thingy.

There are various mathematical permutations still available but Pack dawbers are down heading to wherever Chestnut Hill is. Then those very pesky Deacons with their own “Coach Dave”.   Three weeks between a VERY fine season and simply “we were bowl-eligible and UNCheats wasn’t”.

I’m bored with this. Lets talk about…

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Bubba’s Big Bucks Deal…

Bubba Cunningham

I make no secret that UNC AD Bubba Cunningham is a friend of mine. So is Washington University Provost Holden Thorp. So is Norwood Teague… I probably have a few more if I thought long enough.

Last week the UNC BOG approved a “special compensation plan” for Bubba Cunningham that assures him $200,000/year for the next five years in addition to his $800,000-ish salary.

The N&O’s Jane Stancil posted the story to the N&O website literally from the UNC BOG boardroom at 3:00 PM Friday. By 3:25 I had heard from two Triangle-area mover-shakers via e-mails AND a phone call from a member of The UNC BOG.

What’s BobLee gonna think? was the question of the hour. … Under such enormous pressure… I thought about it.

I bet I know some stuff you don’t know. I usually do…

  1.  The “special deal” Bubba got is not all that special. The UNC BOG did a similar deal several years ago for NCSU Chancellor Randy Woodson when Chancy Randy was being wooed by, I think, Univ of Florida…. Univ of Somewhere. It convinced Randy to stay put
  2. The BOG then did similar deals for UNCCH’s Chancellor “Chihuahua” Folt for God-knows why… several other UNC chancs… and for “That Bush Woman” Margaret Spellings.

Giving “such a deal” to an AD IS precedent-setting and probably a mistake the BOG will regret. It will not be the BOG’s first mistake nor the first one it will likely regret. It opens up “doing the deal” to assorted academic/athletic senior admins.

In the past 12-15 months, Bubba has turned down at least TWO AD gigs that both offered TWICE his UNC salary. Those two offers were Univ Florida and Univ Tennessee.

He and I have NOT discussed his reasons but, knowing him, I speculate it was a sense of obligation to see TGU through to its conclusion. It has now concluded.

Bubba came to UNC BECAUSE of TGU. He inherited the whole ooey-gooey pile of crap from “Call me Dickie” Baddour… I nicknamed him “Bubba The Real AD” as UNC had not really had “a real AD” for quite some time… like 15+ years.

I also speculate that Bubba is Candidate Numero Uno to replace his mentor Jack Swarbrick as AD at Notre Dame. Swarbrick is slated to retire within the next 12 months.

There are currently 10+ Notre Dame-bred ADs in major college athletics. But Bubba Cunningham is the only one I know personally so he is likely ND’s first choice. That gig would also be in the $1.5M pay range… but has a very short golf season.

Bubba Cunningham is on every AD short-list. Except probably NCSU’s. to replace Frau Yow. This “not-so-special deal” is intended to assuage any thoughts of him leaving UNCCH.

Will it? I don’t have that answer

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Cdog and Dudley got it covered! How’s Bo nowdays?

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Dudley Moore
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Dudley Moore

Really interesting reading, Cowdog. You guys are going to turn me into a conspiracy theorist yet!

Dudley Moore
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Dudley Moore

I’m not a conspiracy theorist. Having said that, I think, in all sports, there is a tendency on some game officials’ part to have an expectation as to which is the better team, and give them a little bit more of the benefit of the doubt. The Jacoby Meyers catch reversal was a mistake, in that the officials reversed the ruling of catch, without irrefutable evidence to overturn the call. The pass interference calls were out of balance as well. Regarding those situations, in my opinion, the officials gave the benefit of the doubt to the national champions — that’s… Read more »

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I do not believe there is a stated policy of “screw” State or anyone else within the offices of the ACC or even the BOG. However, I do believe decisions can be influenced by unwritten, unstated preferences within any organization and especially within an organization influenced by politics, money, greed and “fat cat “bragging rights. ( which is most, including churches ) If you as an employee or contract worker are in a position to make a decision that affects the outcome of an event and you are aware of the boss’s preference, I believe you might be influenced to… Read more »

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I refereed for a little bit while in college, basketball and soccer. It was quite humbling. I always saw middle aged men keep the game going, and figured it was a fairly easy way to make some pocket change, and a fun way to stay in sports after my lack of skills told me to hang up the cleats or shoes. I learned a quick lesson on respect for the zebras. My eyes and mind do not work fast enough to be a ref. . The difference in calling a charge or a foul is literally a tenth of a… Read more »

Doug
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Hate, anger, misery, distrust, and conspiracy theories. In other words everything is perfectly normal.

NCSU68Grad
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NCSU68Grad

Doug,
After reading the various headlines this morning from REAL and FAKE NEWS sites….you pretty much summed up. Sort of funny, ironic and a great perspective….in a cynical, but realistic way….
BUT, you were probably talking about BL’s column and NOT why Hillary lost, who will win the VA and NJ gov races today, who shot JFK, whether Trump overfed the Koi, Russian collusion, Harvey and Kevin’s behavior, etc……the list could go on…..but you pretty much nailed our current social media driven world….
Thanks….I needed that….

Doug
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The question I keep asking but never find a satisfactory answer to is why do “we” keep doing this to ourselves?

NCSU68Grad
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Interesting game…The stadium was sold out. NCSU students streamed in when the opened the gate. As far as REAL attendance, it was probably 98%. With Black Friday a comin’, SOME Wuffies converted their $60 or so piece of cardboard into $250 golden fleece. THAT probably explained the 10% or so that was of the ORANGE set. BUT, equally interesting….CF rocked most of the game….save the dismal 3rd Q. There were many times when I checked the exits. Miracles of all Miracles….the Pass Outs came back. With less than a minute to go, CF was at 95% or so. There was… Read more »

TheCowdog
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I look at it this way. Albert would understand, and Don Deckinger would testify.
Officials and their blown calls, in key situations, can and will, turn the tide that even the best will not overcome. It happens.
It’s a shame that it happened two weeks in a row to my Pack. Timing is everything.

Prince.Albert
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Prince.Albert

As usual…..loved the comments and your response.

Thomas.F
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You and Gsbo N&R sportswriter Ed Hardin were of like-minds to Saturday’s results in C-F and post-game reactions. Who reads who?

John.74.GSBO
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John.74.GSBO

BL: you do realize, don’t you, that the LOGIC in your responses to these reader comments is very frustrating to those for whom “logic” is always the first casualty in water cooler Monday Morning QB debates?

MC in Goldsboro
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MC in Goldsboro

I thought State played very well. Nothing to be ashamed of in a tough loss to a very good Clemson team. As has been noted in previous posts, NCSU & UNC have had good seasons, but Clemson has a good program. At this point, I can’t even watch an NCSU game without spending the entire game wondering which call will be the “we got screwed” call, should the Pack lose. It is as predictable as the sun rising in the east. I don’t think there are enough referees in the entire NCAA to cause a UNC win at Carter-Finley this… Read more »

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Been watching local (North Carolina teams) sports for a long time. I always trust ACC field/court officials to know who is supposed to win. I only saw snippets of the game so I didn’t see any controversial calls, but history tells me there probably were some interesting situations. That offside call on the onside kick for the Tarheels 2 years ago in the ACC title game is one such example.

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I’ve only followed Heel sports from a distance since TGU eruption, so I am not up to speed on the Athletic Dept so much, but I am curious, in general, what defines a great AD these days? I would guess keeping a department financial strong is probably 75%, with the other 25% some combination of keeping the boss and academics happy, keeping coaches who stay out of trouble, and bonus points for banners??? . If he sticks around, I will be interesting to see how he handles Roy’s inevitable sunset ride, and if he can find the secret sauce that… Read more »

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I haven’t posted in awhile but this less-than BL’s best caught my attention. Your comments have usually been relatively even handed but this one missed that standard. Maybe it was just a reminder that you are still a hole at heart!

GrahamPacker

Dick Gray
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Board of Governors approve million dollar bonus for Bubba. In realated (albeit older) news: “The Texas House of Representatives unanimously passed [on April 1,1971] a resolution honoring Albert DeSalvo, noting that he had been “officially recognized by the state of Massachusetts for his noted activities and unconventional techniques involving population control and applied psychology.” The resolution further noted that “this compassionate gentleman’s dedication and devotion to his work has enabled the weak and lonely, throughout the nation, to achieve and maintain a few degrees of concern for their future.” “DeSalvo was more widely known as the “Boston Strangler.” He had… Read more »

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I thought the Pack played a helluva game yesterday. From the upper deck, it’s really hard to tell whether those PI calls àgainst our guys were accurate. Seems like when I’m home watching on the HD TV it’s hard to tell also. I’m glad the defensive backs were playing aggressively. Hey, the Pack just cracked the top 20 for the first time since Chuck the chest was here. The Tiggers have been perennial top 5 for a few in a row and whupped the mighty Saban’s. We ain’t a top 15 team. I was pretty frustrated leaving the game but… Read more »

unctarheel1984
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I knew Holden Thorp as an undergrad. I’ll leave it at that.

As far as “the game”, State played well and would have been a deserving winner if the gods had smiled upon them, but becoming a winning program is a process. “State 2017” is “Carolina 2015” and that is a long way from where
Clemson is presently. For State and Carolina stars may align from time to time, but not year to year. That is the difference between a program and the occasional good team.

Bob Kennel
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Tough game for sure. Still like our spunk. No other comment until I carefully review my game recording ????
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