One Circus Ends …. Another Circus Begins

Ringling Bros Circus
BobLee
February16/ 2017

One Circus (Ringling Bros) Ends …. Another Circus Begins … at NC State.

It is simply AMAZING how quickly Mother Nature moves to fill a vacuum. Ringling Bros Barnum & Bailey Circus will shut down forever in several months (May). RBBB officials cite increased operating costs, dwindling ticket sales and “animal rights nuts” as contributing reasons.

After 100 years touring the world, the most famous circus in history made its last appearance at Raleigh’s PNC Arena last weekend. Showing her impeccable sense of timing…. no sooner had the last shovel of sawdust been swept up and the last clown stuffed back into their itty bitty car than Mother Nature “filled that vacuum”.

….. NC State has formally begun “a coaching search” to replace MBB Coach Mark Gottfried.

This is NOT just another “make fun of NC State’s notorious lunatic fringe fan base faction”. If past coaching searches are any indication…. that segment of goggled-eyed, spittle-spewing whack-a-doodles will take care of that without any help from me.

NOTE: I will say that my personal cadre of Wuff Friends does NOT include a single lunatic fringer.  Kennel?  Absolutely not.  Eccentric absolutely, but no way a Hell Hound.

Legendary “Voice of William Neal Reynolds Coliseum” C.A. Dillon passed away this morning at the age of 91. C.A. Dillon was public address CA Dillonannouncer through the fifty years of Reynolds Coliseum and the first two games in what is now PNC Arena. His rich baritone voice was as much a part of Reynolds Coliseum as all it’s seating oddities and 1,000s of memories…. From “The Fall of Skywalker” to “Dudley Bradley steals the ball”.

As I read of Mr. Dillon’s passing on the same day that NC State Athletics officials announced that Gottfried will not be retained… I did wonder if he (CA) got the honor of going deep into the sub-basement of Reynolds to unleash those afore-mentioned goggle-eyed spittle-spewing hell hounds. Whether he had that honor or not…. The Hell Hounds are indeed unleashed AGAIN to run unfettered ever how long ….

It takes Frau Yow to lasso “the man we knew we wanted from Day One”.   As that Day One comes to a close no one but Frau knows who that “who” is, but surely she will reveal him once she signs him.

To be fair to Frau… EVERY coaching search in human history ends with “the man we wanted from Day One” …. Not just at NC State but everywhere – EXCEPT when Matt Doherty was hired of course at UNC when Roy “I Hate HB2” Williams decided “I’m staying” (at KU).

Dickie “Prince Tassel Loafer” Baddour might have even said “Matt was who we wanted from Day One” then but NO ONE ever paid attention when Dickie said anything. I recall one gawd-awful press conference that Dickie did with “The Meez” – the one with The Pissed-Off Posse where Matt was canned – where UNC media dept didn’t even bother to turn on their mics, knowing whatever they might say would only make a bad situation much worse.

“Coaching searches” and “signing day recruiting classes” ALWAYS result in “we got who we wanted from Day One”.

ANYHOOOO…. Quicker than one can say “short list” the “game is afoot” on The Brickyard as Sherlock himself would say.

Having Mark Gottfried hang around for another three weeks as a lame duck is not unprecedented. UNC did it with “Burly John” Bunting. It is somewhat uncomfortable for the coach but he will likely pick up some sympathy support from the same “fans” who were demanding his head on a platter 24 hours ago.  Maybe his players will Win One For Gott ???

The name atop every “short list” on Day One is aptly enough a “short man” – Archie Miller – now the successful head coach at Dayton. Archie played Archie Millerfor “Hapless Herb” Sendak / Sendek at NC State at the dawn of the current millennium. Archie Miller already knows who State’s rivals are which puts him one-up on Hapless Herb who never figured that out.

Archie’s Flyers will for sure be dancing in March so there is likely no chance he will even acknowledge an offer from Frau for the next month. A MONTH is a very long time for those Hell Hounds to roam unfettered across The Brickyard. Two days is a long time for Hell Hounds to roam unfettered on social media.

I had lunch in Chapel Hill today (Thursday) and was asked “scores” of times who will be State’s next coach. I assured my “scores” of inquirers that it would be “who Frau wants right now regardless of who that is, even if it isn’t”. I mentioned Archie – Gregg Marshall (Wichita State) and WhatsHisName at NC Central…. Along with, of course, Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich, Pat Riley and Phil Jackson. Notably I did leave off Rick Barnes. This is the first NC State Coaching Search in anyone’s memory in which Rick Barnes is not on “the short list”.

I can’t recall if John Calipari was on “the short list” when Frau signed Mark Gottfried. I think “Cal’s” last NC State short list was the Sid Lowe experience. I could be mistaken.

My UNC inquirers all said “REALLY?” when I said “WhatsHisName at NC Central” which is pretty much what 97% of the Hell Hounds will probably say.  The NCCU Guy is no doubt a fine fellow in every way… but hardly of the Steve Kerr cache.

I also reminded my lunch bunch that no NC State fan/alumni 25 or younger ever saw Jim Valvano coach at NC State. They have all seen “Cinderella’s shoe fits …. Looking for someone to hug” a bazillion times and have memorized “The ESPY Speech” but they never saw him in person.

NOTE: I still swear V was searching for Bob Kennel that night in Albuquerque.

It’s been 42 years since Skywalker soared in Reynolds.  Only those 50+ can truly say “I was there when David ……” in Reynolds.  Feel old yet?

Whoever it is that “Frau knows she will get” could very likely be on the scene when Ol’Roy and/or Coach K retire…. Radically changing the local coaching picture. In Roy’s case it might be as soon as 2018 when Roy will probably replace David Price as Congressman For Franklin Street. That is assuming Chapel Hill’s latest political activist registers to vote… or has the slightest clue who David Price is.Bobby Purcell

One thing is for sure…. Bobby Purcell is “working the phones”. As Exec Director of The Wolfpack Club, Bobby does an INCREDIBLE JOB of maintaining an enthusiastic (and $$$ generous) fan base through more than a few of these Yeeee Haaaaa Coaching Searches. What’s one more. Between Gottfried’s buy-out and what anyone but “the NC Central guy” will expect …. The WPC Deep Pockets will be digging deep AGAIN.

What makes these things so darn much fun for us “no skin in the game” bystanders is that there is absolutely zero overlap between The Hell Hounds on The Brickyard and the WPC Deep Pockets.

To be fair… that is the case with every “sleeping giant” dreaming of becoming “a juggernaut.

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BobLee
  • Ric '73 Reply
    2 months ago

    I haven’t read the rest of your comments, do you reckon Kevin Keats at UNCW will get any consideration? With the quick results he’s shown it’s only a matter of time before somebody snaps him up.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      After Archie, I assume its wide-open for a dozen “Herbs & Marks”. Why not the UNC-W guy ??

  • OldWuf Vet Reply
    2 months ago

    Yee Haw! There’s coaching searches; and then there’s Wolfpack coaching searches. One of the weirder dynamics: you have dinosaurs like myself that remember 2 Nat. Champ in 9 years and regulaly kicking ass on Tobacco Road. Then there’s all the others <40 yrs old that are perfectly content to take our place and go to a sweet 16 every 20 yrs. I swear, I think we have come to a place culturally where the more common thought is, "We really just can't do any better than this". Kinda like, "The new normal"(the new economy). Is it just me or does nobody aspire to better than the rest? I wish we didn't get so many opportunities to do this. Look forward to the day when our non-rivals over in Durham and Orange County get to experience this.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I do believe that day is coming within five years. The overall culture of Big Time MBB continues to change too with the one&dones …

  • John Doe from the 336 Reply
    2 months ago

    Interesting story from around 2009 (from an anonymous source high in the WPC and former NCSU BOV member) that NCSU was courting John Calipari around that time and that he was actually interested in the job.

    The story goes that Lee Fowler (AD at the time) was supposed to have a phone interview with him early in the morning (like around 7:30AM) but for some reason Fowler missed it – maybe overslept or something. Calipari was apparently so offended that Fowler couldn’t even call him at the right time, he basically told NCSU it was OVER. This was just another factor in Fowler’s firing a year later. Not saying we would have necessarily gotten Calipari, but incompetent administration at NCSU definitely cost the school the opportunity back then.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I have heard versions of that story.

  • AAU Coach, Fayetteville Reply
    2 months ago

    According to my sources there has been a Wendell Murphy sighting in Wilmington with Kevin Keatts (UNC-W coach). Keatts is a Rick Pitno protege. He has done a great job at UNC-W as they lead their conference and should be in the tournament this year. Would be a great catch for State.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      The two schools of thought are the (1) “under the radar guy” or the (2) “big name at a big school guy”. The Hell Hounds ALWAYS go for #2 of course. Both V and K were #1 types 30 yeas ago. Taking a chance on a “under the radar guy” like Keatts is a risk for an AD. Roy was a “under the radar guy” when he went to KU. … Kennel says Frau will “hit a homer” so we’ll see.

      • Doug Reply
        2 months ago

        Another riff on a Gulfstream G5 with tail # xxxx was spotted at RDU. That and coach xxxx was seen with a real estate agent looking at homes ITBW.

        • BobLee Reply
          2 months ago

          Is ITB the Wuffs version of Governors Club ??

          • Doug
            2 months ago

            Somehow the Wuff coaches don’t seem like the ITWB types. Wake Forest coaches, on the other hand seem to populate the W-S version, Buena Vista. I know Dave Odometer is living there because I almost ran over him with my pickup truck as he was jogging back when I lived there. He was pissed. Not sure if was due to me driving by too close or if it was the truck. 😎😎

          • NCSU68Grad
            2 months ago

            Must be….Gottfried has TWO there, except one is NOW in Elizabeth’s name. Bobby Lutz was also an ITB(W) dweller, but not as well heeled as the Gott.
            Flight Tracker will crash before this is all over…..
            The Cal tale that was circulated was that he went into his favorite Memphis BBQ joint for brunch and was lamenting about it would be the last time as he was headed to Raleigh. FUFowler MAY have blown it, but Mrs. Cal was NOT impressed with the “Neighborhoods” according to the local “RE Gossip” and that she, like Mrs. Smart, had the larger vote. Probably just as well…..TGU would have small potatoes to how any academic improprieties that accompany would have been spun by the MSM and such.
            WHO KNOWS? I want TAIL NUMBERS and 500 mm shots….in High Resolution…

          • Bob
            2 months ago

            It’s RCC IBL

  • NCSU68Grad Reply
    2 months ago

    BL,
    Was expecting this. It did cover more breadth than predicted.
    I don’t have as many moons as BK, but I did join the fledgling Wolf Pack Club circa 1971 when Norm Sloan was out glad handing folks in Ahoskie of all places and the booze was free. He had NOT yet snared DT of Shelby fame as DES had told the world that he was Hisin’. Then that fell through and DES called up Bill Gutheridge’s former college roomy and told him to get his bottom down here from his cushy job in Indianapolis and impose an NCAA four year sanction on Sloan for DT’s Pickup Game with Biedenbach….but the investigator spent too much time on the Finely Course and only came up with one year. Kennel can elaborate as he was probably in the PU Game….
    .
    RBBBC was indeed packing up, but there was no sawdust thinks to PETA. Did take in one of their PNC performances with the GK’s. The tiny car clown bit has been replaced by 8 (yes EIGHT) daredevils on crotch rockets zooming around a 12 – 15 enclosed (think WWE) sphere. THAT was impressive.
    .
    Was at the WP WBB game on Sunday. Either AD Yow was taking in the circus or she was sitting across the table from our soon to be Ex Coach and they were fighting over a $2.28 Million pot on the table. She does NOT miss a WBB game. When she was not in her SPOT, I and many fans, suspected that the WFU rout had precipitated action and that she was “NOT” going to view the entire “body of work after the season”.
    .
    My totally unconfirmed and wild @$$ theory is that Coach G (or friend or associate) blabbed to Mark Armstrong and it was a “negotiating” ploy over the plunder. Perhaps BK, since he is on the Leak Plugging Squad, can tell us the REAL story.
    .
    C. A. Dillon’s passing did seem rather ironic. He was a true gentleman and a great fan. He is more famous than Mrs. Sloan and will be remembered just as fondly.
    .
    Chalk one up for NCSU. We have a NEW “FIRST”. We were the FIRST Power 5 school to FIRE a coach….so, in 2017, we officially launched “The Coaching Carousel”….and it probably has some of the overtones of the side shows at the Zebulon, Roanoke Rapids Fair and the Moore County Fairs….
    You are exactly correct….when (FIB) is introduced to the WPN, he (hopefully not IT) will be the TARGET that we wanted all along….dating back to 2015….when the opposite of a raise should have been meeted out to Coach Gottfried.
    .
    Coach Gottfried was an excellent, given the situation, choice at the time and did a great job….UNTIL his own crotch rocket started to propel him in places that would soon divert his attention from the team. I do thank him for the great years and also wish him well with his newly “redesigned” heart and his trophy GF. He will charm his way into a nice ESPN gig and he and his GF and the Ex Mrs. Elizabeth G will then live merrily for at least 3 years….THEN the $$ reality will sink in. OH for a Crystal Ball….who knows, he may pull a Donald and sire an additional 6th little G….you NEVER, EVER know….

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      Frau’s impressive upgrading of “Non-revenue sports” has been impressive but alas that “non-revenue” part is critical. I have no insight on whether Gott’s personal life effected his W-Ls. Easy to speculate I suppose.

  • JD Reply
    2 months ago

    Is there any chance the next NCSU coach will be able to MAKE STATE GREAT AGAIN as long as K and Roy are around no matter who they hire?

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      Define “GREAT”? Do you mean a sustainable Dynasty or a Lightning Strike collection of players that have a Miracle Year? I assume you mean “a dynasty”. It would take 4-5 years of solid recruiting and both K and Roy are likely gone by then so its a moot point. Big Time College BkB is a totally different animal than it was even as recently as V’s Era. Using old paradigms to solve new situations works “sometimes” but doesn’t others. ??? The Case / Sloan / V ways are pretty much ancient “ways to do it”. Looking into the future, I WOULD probably look for a mid 30s AfAm coach with experience “on the big stage”.

      • JD Reply
        2 months ago

        Shaka Smart or the North Carolina Central Guy? If I was State I would go after Buzz Williams. I’m not convinced Roy or K will be gone in 5 years unless they are forced out.

        • BobLee Reply
          2 months ago

          Is Shaka on Hot Seat in Austin ??

          • NCSU68Grad
            2 months ago

            Shaka was picked as #2 in the Big 12 (only 10 teams) in July. Lost his prize PG. Folks in December said that it was just a phase and that fans would NOT recognize the team in February. They were NOT disappointed. Team is barely holding on to 9th place.
            Shaka has recruited a PG that Mikey was after and the guy’s comment…”Texas is in much worse shape and needs me now…”. Always like a PG with an ego….but Mr. Smith of NCSU fame has not worked out that great.
            There are rumors that Shaka’s little rant of a “Slap in the face when Trump was elected” have not enhanced his position, along with his W-L record. Guess things sort of went downhill after November 8. He will have another year, maybe 2, or so and if he delivers, then all will be forgiven, if not, his tenure may not outlast Trump’s. Ya’ never know…I have made it a point to watch some UT games this year and they are almost as bad as my West Raleigh folks…
            Shaka is on track to make Gottfried’s first two years look like a COY nominee….VCU is still recovering, financially, but the Alum’s wives and daughters no longer make midnight house calls to pay the coach’s whims….

          • BobLee
            2 months ago

            I don’t follow UT BB at all. Never thought of Shaka until his name came up this week. No clue if being a HateTrumper helps/hurts with Orangebloods. Using the Dean Theory… If you are going to “be political” you better WIN A LOT. Lots of UNCCHers held their nose and cheered for Dean as his activism reached manic levels.

          • Doug
            2 months ago

            Proves to me that there are considerable advantages of my viewing preferences of steady doses of Netflix, HGTV, and The Hallmark Channel are actually superior to what some semi-illiterate ball player says or some coach that inserts themselves into the muck for whatever reason other than X&O’s or whatever ESPN picks as their latest crisis du jour from the buffet line of manufactured cultural issues. I get irritated at myself when I accidentally see, hear, or read what is being told as truth these days.

          • BobLee
            2 months ago

            What is euphemistically called “mainstream” has not been “mainstream” for quite some time.

  • myowngrandpaw Reply
    2 months ago

    There are THREE instances that bothered me from the outset. One, on the day Gottfried was introduced to Wolfpack fans, Yow spent most of her time dissing Gary Williams and accusing Williams of telling coaching prospects what a terrible AD Yow was.
    Essentially, Gottfried “was the best we could get” because of Gary Williams.

    Second, when I saw Jim Harrick sitting behind the bench for many of the games.

    Three, Gottfried should have known not to take the job because the refs do not like NC State.
    Name another team where the son-in-law of the coach(Les Robinson), and two former stars(Corchiani, Gugliotta) kicked out of the STANDS during an ACC basketball game. It was not a homer thing either. The son-in-law was kicked out of Cameron. Name another ACC school where that has happened?

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I had forgotten “the Harrick thing”. But The Gott Era has not been “scandalous” to any degree. No rumors of impropriety that I recall. His recruits are “touted” and he’s had several outstanding individuals for sure – Warren and Smith Jr. The Anya Thing was/is weird but I am not an “Insider”. BK would be the authority on that level of program intrigue.

      • Myowngrandpaw Reply
        2 months ago

        When do “scandals” mean anything anymore? It seems if you dont have scandal you are not recruiting well. Louisville, UNC are prime examples. One and done players just have to stay off the police blotters. Other than that, no big deal. And yes, scandals have been around since Frank McGuire. That is as far back I can go.

        • BobLee Reply
          2 months ago

          I don’t talk about it all that much but SOCIAL MEDIA has changed everything more than it is given credit for. Between athletes blaring out their opinions on everything and average fans having the power of “media”; we have redefined Truth as “whatever you want on the buffet line of (mis)information”. Once you descend 2-3 levels into the depths of misinformation you lose your ability to find your way out. Think Hansel & Gretel and bread crumbs.

        • ultraviolet Reply
          2 months ago

          I always wondered if the ‘one and dones’ even show up for class in the spring semester. They only have to pass fall to be eligible I believe. Does anyone check to see what they’re doing in the spring?

          • BobLee
            2 months ago

            I don’t know the answer to that. The one&dones usually “drop out” as soon as they “declare for the draft” thru whatever that process is. I believe “hiring an agent” is the “line in the sand”. Schools on the quarter system would be different from semester systems as far as GPA / eligibility are concerned. As UNC showed with Marvin, that first semester can be loaded with “easy A’s” so basically a “one&done” never truly “goes to college” in the academic sense. The whole process is a JOKE!

    • NCSU68Grad Reply
      2 months ago

      Having watched all the away games and attended all but one (sold my UNC Tickets to avoid seeing the Champions Club look like the Rams Club), I can ONLY surmise that Ex Coach Jimmy Harrick is a highly paid consultant on staff to Coach G. He has been at EVERY NCSU game this year. I supposed that his mission was to provide Defensive Prowess that we lost after Coach Gottfried summarily fired (his last hurrah) Coach Lutz. There ARE folks that wanted charges brought against Bobby Lutz…for “taking our defense with him…” when he left. He has been discussed more this year that the coach’s personal life….and THAT is saying something..

  • Ed.P Reply
    2 months ago

    Gottfried seemed to have the resume to be successful at NCSU. Why wasn’t he?

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I am NOT the one to ask as I (1) never met the man; (2) don’t get “in the weeds” on how he runs his program. Obviously every NCSU MBB coach has to deal 24/7 with the two HOF coaches next door. Until either/both of them change it’s a tremendous challenge. “Either/both” are closer to a change than at any point in history, so maybe the next five years will see a shift ???
      .
      IF Frau can get Archie Miller he seems to have the combo of youth and early career success to be successful at NCSU however that is measured. Beyond him it seems like a “a bunch of guys named Moe”.

  • BullCityBeth Reply
    2 months ago

    Nevermind the Wolfpack and their short list, I want to know how did you find a restaurant open yesterday in Chapel Hill?!?! It was the day without immigrants and a lot of places were closed yesterday,…

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I meet each Thursday with a clandestine group of Christian men I call “Anne Frank’s Attic”. We gather on the down low in a local church fellowship hall. You know “the guy” who manages the group. 🙂

  • Doug Reply
    2 months ago

    I don’t blame the WP. 4 NCAA Tournaments in 6 years is unacceptable. Finding the guy we wanted all along will be a breeze. All coaches like outgoing AD’s to do the hiring because they feel so much safer when the new AD shows up with the knowledge that they would have made the same hire.

    And don’t mind the candidate noise. There will be a few names tossed around to soothe the diversity crowd. It’s always a plus to appear to really gives a damn.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      Are there any known transgender coaches “out there”? Commish Swofford would like that.

      • Former96Heel Reply
        2 months ago

        I’m not naming names, but I have seen my fair share of WBB coaches that I could swear spent more on Gillette products than me. Especially when you hear one let fly on a string of cursing that would make a sailor blush, you start to wonder. “she’s definitely no lady, but is she even a female?”
        .
        A tranny would have trouble recruiting, but it would certainly get a lifetime contract, and a seat on the BOT. Why not go with the travel coach from one of the And One/Youtube dunkfest, no defense teams? Surely all the five stars would come join up for their mandatory year, right? State would never go for it, what about Syracuse or Miami? A modified Globetrotters with the newest sneakers and minigolf in the dorm. Oh yea, we’re already there in big time college sports.
        .
        This circus will be tame compared to when Roy checks into Fearrington for good, or when K’s back keeps him bound to a wheelchair. I hear UNC Med researchers are working to clone St Dean for another few decades. They retrieved his DNA from the cigarette butts behind the glass in the basketball museum and shrine, a la Jurassic Park.

        • BobLee Reply
          2 months ago

          Nothing you suggest seems all that implausible in today’s socio-cultural climate. NCSU is much more “old-school” than other more avant-garde institutions in the area so perhaps they will not be the one to break the alternative gender barrier with coaches.

  • Kingixolib Reply
    2 months ago

    Vacuum I understand……vacumn I don’t.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      Thats understandable.

    • ultraviolet Reply
      2 months ago

      Vacuum….a device designed to suck up dirt and lint from your carpet and flooring.

      Vacumn…..what you’re doing when your wife tells you to use the vacuum.

      • BobLee Reply
        2 months ago

        There are 4-5 words I have a mental block about spelling. That is one of them.

  • Robert Kennel Reply
    2 months ago

    Excellent and timely article re “circus”. However, may not be as big a coaching search circus as some fans of several schools anticipate or desire. Appreciate the professionalism of Yow and Gottfried. Wrote both including Woodson and got good responses.
    Obviously much more to come, but I’m pleased that Gottfried and team will finish season together with some opportunity for redemption. Don’t sense any panic issues, and believe State will come out better than most expect — and with more honor than calliope music.😋

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      Surely as NCSU SuperFan you were consulted prior to dropping the hammer? Start work on a new scarf for the new coach.

  • MApackfan Reply
    2 months ago

    And really: “Sendak” “Alburquerque”

    Given what we pay to subscribe to your column; we expect better editing. 🙂

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      I NEVER got Herb’s name right… but I ALWAYS get Doherty right. My spellchek did not light up on “that city in New Mexico” so I went with it.

  • MApackfan Reply
    2 months ago

    Like reading your columns. But you have obviously been reading sports threads that you deny ever reading. This one is more of a fishing expedition for you. I have previously read and expect better.

    • BobLee Reply
      2 months ago

      No fansite threads… just several regional sports media websites. Seems to be a consensus on those short list names… at least for Day One.

  • BobLee Reply
    2 months ago

    If you didn’t keep checking that last column (Batting Gloves) go back and read the GREAT COMMENTS!

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