Why No Snowflakes On The Brickyard?

Brickyard
BobLee
February02/ 2017

Why (statistically) are there No Snowflakes “on The Brickyard @ NCSU”?    You ever wondered about that? I have.

NOTE: This is NOT a political rant. It is a legitimate question as regards NC State University. By posting this here rather than on AgentPierce’s page we will be assured of valued contributions from several of our more knee-jerk opinioniers. Any / all are, of course, encouraged to weigh-in on this one.

“Snowflakes” is the en vogue term for those poor delicate, uber-sensitive, junior-millennials who, like their namesake, melt at the first contact with the slightest discomfort – real or, in their cases, imagined.  Safe Zones

They scurry to their institutionally assigned “safe places” where, like Anne Frank in her Amsterdam attic, they fear 24/7 the imminent arrival of assorted varieties of DANGER.

 

“DANGER” to a snowflake is anything they have been told by their “handlers” could bruise their oh-so-delicate sensitivities. The source of all that DANGER is, of course, from jack-booted ideologues in opposition to the little snowflakes’ own ideologue-driven handlers.

The words Trump … FoxNews … Rush Limbaugh … HB2 … and Real Life et al are some of the many “trigger words” that push a Snowflake to the edge of catatonia. Their teary little eyes well up and they commence to ashivering and ashuddering and spinning about like little whirling dervishes. It is quite a site.

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DranoBL NOTE: I am the father of a 29-y/o millennial “hipster” married to a preacher-man and living in Madison WI where “snowflakes” of both kinds are abundant. She is strong-willed and opinionated (some of her opinions are “silly”; but don’t tell her I said that!). IF she had been “a snowflake” I would have guzzled a can of Drano as those 18+ years under my and Blondie’s parental influence would have been totally wasted. They weren’t… she isn’t… so here we are.

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OK. That’s what Snowflakes are. Today’s question is how come we never see / read about any significant Snowflake sightings on the campus of NC State University.

The twin “Flagships” of the UNC System – NCSU and UNCCH – are located 26 miles apart within the same metro area. They have roughly the same student population – 30,000-ish. NCSU may have slightly more in-state students but not enough to be a factor.  NCSU is a highly-ranked STEM institution.  UNCCH is equally highly-ranked among Liberal Arts institutions. …. Both campuses have more female than male students. UNCCH significantly so… NCSU just slightly more so. Neither school has a significant AfAm population. NCSU does have more AfAm students. UNCCH has a statistically insignificant AfAm population, even less if one discounts student-athletes.

If one believes “media reports” (Bwahahaha / LOLOLOL) practically everyone at UNCCH including faculty, administrators, students and housekeepers are “snowflakes”. Hardly a week goes by that there is not “film at 11” of a gaggle of imperiled snowflakes at UNCCH huddled together in front of a campus landmark holding misspelled signs advocating some impending imaginary peril about which their breadth of knowledge is a 3×5 index cards of “talking points”.

On the recent Inauguration Day, Jim Goodmon’s WRAL TV-5 enthusiastically reported a student “walk-out” to protest all things Trump. Do you know how many students were involved? …. “SCORES”! I kid you not – “SCORES” of UNCCH snowflakes were protesting. A shot of said snowflakes outside South Bldg might have numbered 30…. Maybe 40 if one counts the media. Using Abe Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address a score” is “20”.

The public perception of UNCCH is a campus as overrun with sniveling snowflake dissidents and junior anarchists as Calcutta is with rats. Yet we see the very same 30-50 sniveling snowflakes at every well-documented protest du jour. Generously double that to “maybe 100” …. oMaynard Grebbsut of 30,000 ??? Yet UNCCH seems to relish it’s long-time image as Berkeley South.

Is this image more from gaggles of  human flotsam and jetsam that have migrated to “Chapelboro” over the years seeking to escape “the real world” in the way that Dobie Gillis’ pal Maynard G. Grebbs was so terrified of “WORK !!”?

I proffer that 94% of “college students” at 97% of colleges are there for the same reason we went “back in the day – The Five Get’s:

Get Drunk – Get Laid – Get High – Get a Degree – Get a Job

The order of priority of those Gets vary with each student of course. Likewise their success in achieving all five may vary.  The ones more successful wth the last two tend to spend less time on the first three.

The #1 Concern of 96% of college students is NOT “the environment” …. NOT “Trump” …. NOT “where trans-sexuals pee” …. NOT even  “who did we get on National Signing Day”. The #1 Concern of college students in 2017 is the same it has always been – The personal hygiene of their dorm room mate.

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So… accepting all of the above as Gospel Truth…. How come the number of Snowflakes “on The Brickyard” is statistically zero?

Surely there are some TrumpHaters between Western Blvd and Hillsborough St.

Surely there are samples of all the dozens of gender-hybrids in West Raleigh.

The next generation of Bob Kennels (YIKES!) are probably spray-painting Che Guevarra images in that Tunnel thingy.

…. BUT WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT’EM ??

AND…. Jim Goodmon’s WRAL-TV5 gang is located just across Western Boulevard. McClatchy’s N&O journo-weasels are only 4-5 blocks away. If “SCORES” of NCSU snowflakes were assembled “on The Brickyard” holding misspelled posters and mumbling some rap version of “Hell No… We Want Go!” or “Never Trust Anyone Over 30” or “Tippecanoe & George Soros Too” – you KNOW “the media” would be all over it.Randy Woodson

Could it be that NCSU Chancellor Randy Woodson sees a higher more practical purpose for his institution than does his counterpart “Chancellor Chihuahua” 26 miles away?   Unlike Frau Folt, does Randy not concern himself with what color causal lapel ribbon to wear today.

  • Does Randy measure success by how many NCSU grads go forth to “make a difference” and be self-sustaining after their 4-6 or so years at NCSU? … Not by how many snowflakes required “trauma counseling” after Nov 8th
  • Does an NCSU education require more time with one’s nose to the academic grindstone than making up misspelled protest signs?
  • Do future engineers and architects and computer scientists and veterinarians and agricultural researchers need to use those transitional years between 18 and 23 to REALLY learn something that will benefit them and their future families out there in the often-unforgiving real world”?

…. Maybe more so than those students in “BlahBlah Studies” under Chancellor Chihuahua’s “in loco parentis”?

What say YOU ??

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Angie
Angie
3 years ago

My friend just shared this article and turned me on to your site. I was reading it at Irregardless and when I came to the Chancellor Chihuahua comment, I laughed so hard my husband thought something was wrong with me. Must admit I have degrees from both NCSU and UNC, but will always be a State fan. . To be perfectly honest, in my day we did march at NCSU – on Thursday nights after the Homecoming Pep Rally from the campus straight down Hillsborough Street to the Confederate Statute where we climbed all over it, had another pep rally… Read more »

ultraviolet
ultraviolet
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

When I was at ECU streaking became epidemic as it had at schools all across the country. It got to be a competitive thing. If you had heard UNC had 100 streakers last night then we had to have 200 at our group event. The Greenville/ECU police finally had enough and announced that anyone arrested streaking would be taken to jail naked and spend the night. That pretty much ended that fad. I did enjoy that much better than the old panty raids. Back to the original topic, if you haven’t watched, Last Man Standing on ABC had an episode… Read more »

Myowngrandpaw
Myowngrandpaw
3 years ago

Prior to ’75 it was too difficult to have a sit-in with a slide rule attached to your belt. Or carrying your computer program in two two foot long boxes. Also the ratio of men to women was 12 to 1. So meeting hip hugger bell bottoms and halter tops at a sit-in was not likely either.
So State students never built much of a tradition for sit-ins. So the Vietnam anti-war hayday was left to liberal arts schools.

thailand
thailand
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

It’s just about midnight in Pattaya, and I’m preparing for the long-haul back to Portland to visit the kid and family. I thought I would weigh in. __________________________________________________________________________________ That photo of the brickyard takes me back to a day in May of ’70 when I was at State when bullets flew at Kent State. __________________________________________________________________________________ Coach Sloan told us to stay away from the protests, but that warning wasn’t even a speed bump for me, so I found myself spending an evening sleeping against the spreading oak you can just make out on the raised grassy island in the background… Read more »

TheCowdog
TheCowdog
3 years ago
Reply to  thailand

LOL, Thai. See Angie’s post above and imagine a much, more, compromising photo, landing on Willis Casey’s desk.

BL knows the tale, if he remembers.

thailand
thailand
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCowdog

“Those were the days my friend…” 🙂

Doug
Doug
3 years ago

Have there been any snowflakes protesting the water shortage in Chapel Hill?

Edward White
Edward White
3 years ago

I have to say I mostly don’t care for your columns, BobLee. But you got this one right.

Edward White
Edward White
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

It’s a character flaw; I majored in journalism.

Robert Kennel
Robert Kennel
3 years ago

BLAP, maybe you did make me up, but you need to be more sure of your alternate facts. Nuclear Engineering with BS in ’58, MS in ’60 then USAF. Not really that political until retiring back to NC and watching the Legislature and weak Governor butcher my home state.
Chancellor Woodson is an outstanding leader who balances his politics or he wouldn’t have done so well with the NC Legislature over the past 6 years. And NC State has plenty of what you decide as “snowflakes” but we call them “Wheaties”. Go Pack !!

JHR
JHR
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

Bob Kennel is a babbling idiot.

NCSU68Grad
NCSU68Grad
3 years ago
Reply to  Robert Kennel

One could say that the concerns of doing Nuclear Experimentation dressed in Wrangler Coveralls can take its tolls. I offer the following example. James Earl Carter, Ex President, was also a “Nuclear” type of guy. It has, I think, been wrongly reported that he was a Nuclear Engineer, like our beloved BK. However, I read some historical articles that correct that. He was a PSAM (Physical Sciences and Applied Mathematics). He were a Nuclear Physicist. I had some friends that were Nuclear PSAM’s. They told me that they could understand the “concepts and physics” of the atom, nuclear masses, Renkins,… Read more »

Doug
Doug
3 years ago
Reply to  Robert Kennel

Maybe BK can enlighten us about New Bern’s own Buzzy Stubbs. Did he plead to a lesser charge than the felony to protect Bev or himself, or both? Did he lose the urge to become a travel agent? If nothing else Buzzy the Republican proved flexible, dare I say amphibious. I do agree that Perdue, Easley, and McCrory were weak governors. ORC ain’t setting the world on fire either. Democratic legislators in Congress are patting themselves on the back for obstructing confirmation hearings for Trump’s Cabinet. Meanwhile ORC and friends are opposed to having the NCGA confirm his appointees. Irony… Read more »

Richard.E
Richard.E
3 years ago

Question: Didn’t I read somewhere, maybe one of your columns / comments, that Bob Kennel has an engineering degree from NCSU. If that is true and “engineers tend to be Conservative” how does explain his political views?

Wolf Blizzard
Wolf Blizzard
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

I have it third hand that BK was exposed to massive doses of radiation in the bomb bays of B-52s in the early sixties. He smoked cigars with Curtis LeMay and Fidel Castro. He also invented Dos Equis and was awarded a Nobel Prize in Bovine Scatology. His final break with reality occurred after Reagan defeated Carter. BK makes Chuck Norris, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne and Charles Bronson seem effiminate. As for the lack of snowflakes on the brickyard, it’s quite ingenious actually. The PULSTAR reactor of the NCSU Burlington Nuclear Engineering Lab superheats the bricks year round to prevent… Read more »

Doug
Doug
3 years ago

Be careful please. If any snowflakes read “foul tips” it could be misconstrued as a trigger word. Your call.

OldAlphaWolf
OldAlphaWolf
3 years ago

This is easy. Us engineer/STEM types, are prisoners of numbers. We can do the math. Those who lean toward this mindset, tend to be objective and logically oriented i.e. conservative. Rules govern what we do. Therefore we have an inherent respect for systems and rules. Us conservatives strive to achieve a system that is “fair” to all it’s participants. If the system is fair, the the results are fair. If someone suffers from a fair system, then it’s unfortunate, but no the fault of the system. . To a liberal, if anyone is hurt by the fair system then it… Read more »

Mr. Wizard
Mr. Wizard
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

If an Engineer makes a mistake, the airplane crashes. The bridge collapses. The train jumps the track. The asthma rescue inhaler fails. Pretty serious stuff. I was graduated in Mechanical Engineering from NC State University. Unlike lib-arts, there was a constant attempt to “weed out” the “not quite sharp enough” students until the latter part of my Junior year; a famous statistic at one time was 2 out of 3 don’t make it. BTW, I know at one time; not sure if it’s still true, but outside of the military academies, only Texas A&M graduated more military officers than NC… Read more »

CPR
CPR
3 years ago
Reply to  OldAlphaWolf

Bingo!

Downeast.Heel
Downeast.Heel
3 years ago

Easy one – State has majors that lead to real jobs doing real work. While some Carolina degrees do that as well, Chapel Hill competes with Berkeley for the most (fill in the blank) Studies majors. After all, Chapel Hill helped put the “liberal” in liberal arts.
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Damn, and I’m a Carolina grad saying that….albeit it one with a real degree.
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Down East Heel

Jay
Jay
3 years ago
Reply to  Downeast.Heel

During my days studying engineering up in Blacksburg, I can tell you we were 95% engaged trying to survive a meat grinder of a curriculum designed to fail 67% of us. There was some time for beer and fresh air on the weekends but none for political issues – and those days America had a few: Among them double digit mortgage rates, an oil embargo, and the Iran hostage crisis. Snowflakes would have dropped out of engineering studies after the first lecture.

Jack.n.Hickory
Jack.n.Hickory
3 years ago

I wonder if Mr Kennel might share his opinions re: yesterday incident at Cal-Berkeley.

TheCowdog
TheCowdog
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

Out of the lounge. The Black Flag Anarchists have no association, but for anyone other than themselves.

Who backs them may be quite debatable.
Obviously, Snowflakes cannot.

…So, whom?

NCSU68Grad
NCSU68Grad
3 years ago

I am really, much of the time, a Dr. Woodson fan. YES, he seems a bit left of center. BUT, if you express a dissenting opinion or ask a question, in a professional manner, he responds immediately. We discussed, via email, his “Snowflake Hostel in the Student Union” message and he really seemed to understand and did not defend his decision with Holier and Smarter Than Thou comments. We have also discussed the “Band Kneeling Thingie” and he and our Director came up with a policy that respects the long standing relationship of NCSU and the Military and also lets… Read more »

Former96Heel
Former96Heel
3 years ago

News media are drawn to Chapel Hill like a moth to light. For most media in this state, it is a literal coming home. Never a week went by in my 4 years without some sort of cause celebre being the center of attention. In my day, it was mostly the Black Student Center, or something the 1.4% of students were fighting for. Maybe a housekeeper pay raise, or demanding a statue go up or come down. The attention usually revolved around a solid “score” of people, but it drew many magnitude more in media coming back to their roots… Read more »

Former96Heel
Former96Heel
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

This got me wandering down memory lane, thinking about the just flat out CooCoo for Cocoa puff faculty I ran into years ago. One year, an econ prof literally left class several weeks into the semester because the Soviet Union was crumbling and they needed an economic adviser. Maybe it was one of the first no-show classes, but I do not remember any athletes in it. We had to write a paper, and got a pass on attending for the rest of the year. I just looked it up, and this guy is still on the faculty. He even has… Read more »

Doug
Doug
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

“If a kid is in a worthwhile major he can usually avoid the whackadoddle profs and, if he does get one, just feed the fool back his BS, take the “A” and move along.” Precisely what I told my kids. One of them went off the reservation in a Sociology class and barely got a C but felt better about it. In the long run he’s better off. BTW, when scores (20-40) protest at UNC that means ~29,900+ did not. Same as 1K Triangle residents showing up to protest at RDU. 1.2 million did not protest as you pointed out… Read more »

Old MacDonald
Old MacDonald
3 years ago

I was at State in Lee Dorm in 1990 … on election night when the networks called Helms as the winner of the Senate race, a huge cheer went up as if we had just hit a buzzer-beater to win a big game.

Chip
Chip
3 years ago

Unfortunately, Chancellor Randy has let us down at least with regard to the precious snowflakes. He put out a letter soon after the election soothing the little previous ones and opening a safe room with bottled water and cookies. This week he put out a letter with the feel good pablum of how NCSU values immigrants and how troubling the latest trumpian schemes have been. All much to the chagrin of State alums. Thoughts were pretty much – “we expect this crap in Chapel Hill but not Raleigh!”

Chip
Chip
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

Don’t understand why Mr Kennel has such pull with the university (according to him). I realize he was born in a manger at Tyron palace, lettered in every sport at state while majoring in every engineering program, advisor to every chancellor since Caldwell and Lee Fowler while being chief of the Air Force, BUT it’s not like he’s Wendell Murphy or Dr Goodnight.

ncsu1987
ncsu1987
3 years ago

LOL, you’ve set the table, I popping some corn… My 2 cents worth: I think your final paragraph succinctly evinces the primary factors at work here. Before some of your more strident readers eviscerate me, I’m taking your suggestions under the assumption that they are generalizations, and not absolutes. Under those rules, I believe all of your bullet points apply. But (and here we may disagree) I believe the overriding factor is leadership. Students (wherever they are) with spare time on their hands, will do and say whatever they can get away with (back to your first three “gets”). In… Read more »

Mary.75
Mary.75
3 years ago

I seem to recall news reports of “student demonstrations” at NCSU over the years.

Dajudge in Charlotte
Dajudge in Charlotte
3 years ago

I wonder how many of the UNC snowflakes are paying for their education? If there are any, they are very few in number.

Radio_Smuggles
Radio_Smuggles
3 years ago

68 can explain. I bet he can shingle a roof, build a factory, a wall. or shoe a horse with the best of them. Paraphrasing what my UNC grad nephew said; ” at UNC I was programmed to present ideas, write papers and (in addition to your 5 Gets) join the Order of Gimghoul. My NCSU grad wife was trained to actually do stuff that matters.”

Awaiting wisdom from 68.

NCSU68Grad
NCSU68Grad
3 years ago
Reply to  Radio_Smuggles

Technically, it is my friend, the talented musician that can “shingle a roof”. I spent way too many days on industrial roofs watching folks do that. In fact, if you had yelled, Immigracion, then the roof would have been bare…. Can’t shoe a horse, but I did help move equipment and processes that MADE the Horseshoes. Likewise I have built two factories and built several walls and renovated buildings and demolished them. Really wanted to implode one and suggested that to Dr. Woodson. I was busy cleaning the paste off the walls of my DW’s latest….We do NOT need Wallpaper… Read more »

Doug
Doug
3 years ago
Reply to  NCSU68Grad

ICE and hielo have different meanings in Spanish especially for illegal immigrates.

58WolfKennel
58WolfKennel
3 years ago

“Despite your initial disclaimer, this is more AP than BL and uses AP’s assumptions about life. Nevertheless, you do get the simple fact (not an alternative one) that NC State has a more critical role for the STEM needs of society without totally losing the individual need for personal social graces. The leadership role of Chancellor Woodson cannot be overstated (and not just in comparison with Chancellor Folt). . Also, I wouldn’t underestimate the “snowflake” revolution going on around the country. Despite the negative and weak connotation of the term, there are some human rights issues that have a more… Read more »

RFY
RFY
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

If Bob Kennel did not exist, you would have to make him up.

NCSU68Grad
NCSU68Grad
3 years ago
Reply to  BobLee

Do you REALLY want me to use up bandwidth to verify that BK is real.

Don’t think you sent AD Yow 5 Grand for a Reynolds tile to create your liberal, NCSU Graduate, foil. But if you did…

He did call me to try to convert me and join his warped lot. Not a bad guy, once you get past his political deficiency.

Jerry.N.Wilm
Jerry.N.Wilm
3 years ago

Hot Diggity Dawg … as you might say BL…. The comments for this one oughta be A HUMDINGER !!

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